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... so, stefan, did you in the meantime find the time to watch my mera luna 'daylight show' and find out that by only watching the first song you didnt notice that the 'daylight' turns into a really beautiful sunset from the 5th song on?

...did you in the meantime find out that the 'alternately requested' (you didnt mention that, but i guess its better here if i do that for you) FLA club show footage is also part of this dvd?

its full of those backing screen visuals made by christian poeck (the live wired director that you're supporting all the time as it seems). i mean theyre on there, just so you know. its all there. maybe you just didnt care? and didnt ask me? and didnt take a look at the dvd content list on my website?

i think you just didnt wanna know. about any of this.

the fact that i'm discussing this in public has already given me insults like 'ass, fuck off, tourette syndrome guy'. it has given you another apology to continue not watching my dvd.

i'm just playing with open cards. is that bad business behaviour? is that breaking the rules of this forum? or is it just making you look ignorant? IS THAT why you dont want to work with me, stefan?

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Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:12 pm
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bad business behavior is harrassing the man on a public forum. it'd be bad enough if you did it through private emails but doing it publicly is horribly bad business.


Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:07 am
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would you call stefans apparently ignorant approach to my dvd GOOD business behaviour?

private or public, no difference.


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Really now, what the hell? Don't harass the man, you know he runs a record label right? He is most likely quite busy with time sensitive issues. An attitude like that will get you nowhere... ever. My advice would be to retract and apologize and take this up in a constructive manner.

If you have perused the dependent site or read through any of the sleeve liners for compilations etc. that this label puts out you would know full well Stefan puts forth a lot of time and effort into anything he pursues. I have yet to receive anything from this label that wasn't absolutely incredible because of his dedication to what he does.

Whatever this material is you sent him, rest assured he will devote his utmost attention to it as soon as he can make the time for it. If it is good he will tell you so, if it isn't he will tell you so, and he will probably make suggestions that will be highly constructive so be sure and take notes.


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its not like i think stefan is the worst guy on this planet. its just that this project is drowning in year-old prejudices, i get ignored, censored, and badmouthed in a couple places. i know that stefan is reading stuff like the mindphaser forum and i'm sure this is colouring off. and i'm just fucking tired of people who run their personal agenda of badmouthing me and cheering whenever somebody picks up their ignorant style and thinks that 'the fla fans all think that henriks work is crap'. and when i find out how little stefan has spent looking at the actual nature of the project it gets me nuts.

look at the upcoming delerium dvd. that person whos doing that is being hyped by all her fans, she photoshops out all of her bad sides in public and pretends how she's such a nice and professional person. in years there hasnt been a single post on mindphaser and in her youtube comments on how all of her fla 'live' footage is live videos with studio and live wired audio. its not being discussed anywhere.

i'm the sort of guy who admits that he's having conflicts with bandmembers and record label guys. thats how i am. i dont photoshop and hide any of it. i dont have a problem with people dissing my video style, all i want is to be allowed to diss these people in return. some people think that its professional to say nothing and think 'what a fucking loser' and keep their mouths shut cause they wanna sell more copies.

i'm okay with critical comments on my work and critical replies on comments on my work. what i'm not okay with is censorship and ignorance. and i disapprove fake realities like the mindphaser forum and nasty byte.

and i'm not sure if stefan sees thru that or still looks at me seeing the naive untalented idiot i was 6 years ago when i started working on this glorious train wreck fla dvd war. i just dont see music politics as field where people who photoshop their image should win, thats why i keep fighting like this regardless of applause from the readers. i'm not into sucking dick to get more 'great, i will buy a copy of your product' posts.


Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:28 am
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would you call stefans apparently ignorant approach to my dvd GOOD business behaviour?


he is merely reacting to the way you are acting and giving you NOT SO SUBTLE hints to screw off and you aren't picking up on any of them

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private or public, no difference.


uh wrong, HUGE difference.

public = i read about it and others read about it so we all know
private = none of us know about it


Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:21 am
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he is merely reacting to the way you are acting and giving you NOT SO SUBTLE hints to screw off and you aren't picking up on any of them


yeah, he probably is. i'm getting that. i guess thats part of what the thread is about. i feel a bit, you know, underrated...


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private or public, no difference.

uh wrong, HUGE difference.

public = i read about it and others read about it so we all know
private = none of us know about it


well, that happens when you keep things short. i meant to say that his private reaction wasnt different to the public one. and just to underline it, i didnt really expect stefan, the record industry guy whose well-known for his outspoken online communication, to have a problem with this open communication style i'm performin here.

but cmon, i'm not stupid enough to not understand the difference between 'public' and 'private', man. please stop considering someone THAT stupid. we're all adults here, are we? oh no wait, i'm not, gotcha :D


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Nice going Henrik, it's like you're betting against yourself!


Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:08 am
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yeah, he probably is. i'm getting that. i guess thats part of what the thread is about. i feel a bit, you know, underrated...


i don't even know what all this is about... i don't know who you are so i don't know why you think you're underrated, i just see you on here acting like a douchebag and harassing Stefan. he said he'd listen or watch whatever it is you gave him when he had time and you have to give him that time... not come on here and whine and bitch like a baby.

he's under no obligation to pay attention to whatever you sent him in the first place so i don't see why you think you're entitled to his attention.


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he's under no obligation to pay attention to whatever you sent him in the first place so i don't see why you think you're entitled to his attention.

Totally agree. I thing this shouls stop now. Your DVD is going to be released so be happy instead of angry

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Post Re: the FLA DVD thread you asked me to start...
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he said he'd listen or watch whatever it is you gave him when he had time and you have to give him that time... not come on here and whine and bitch like a baby.


so how much time does it take to look into a 70min and another 50min video? he's had the 70min one since december.
of course he's not obliged to watch it, but my point is that he's had plenty of time to do so, and instead of doing so he still has no idea about the nature of the product and communicates his scepticism on something he doesnt know yet.

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Nice going Henrik, it's like you're betting against yourself!


yeah, we should handle this like you're handling it on mindphaser:
-henrik posts that some pages on the mindphaser website have outdated info and havent been updated for the last 3 years
-the mp administration says that i should stop harrassing them about the website and move on.
-henrik sends an update of the pages to the administration that they simply need to paste into their site
-the admins receive the update, but choose not to use it, to make clear to henrik to move the fuck on
-henrik makes a forum post to bitch about the unproductive handling of the website again, and mentions how the admins are ruining the site on purpose
-henrik is banned for life from the forum for harassing the administration.

it might end up the same here. stefan never watches the video, and blames it on my harassment. from the perspective of stefan, everything is alright. from the perspective of henrik, everything is retarded. because the whole affair never even remotely dealt with the work i delivered, it was just all about the fights i fought to get my work ... reviewed. oh well...


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That is a great example of how to get people to disregard your efforts no matter how good they are. The stance that you take is a bit aggressive. It will turn people off of working with you regardless of how great your projects turn out. I was in a synthpop band about a decade ago that never went anywhere because the frontman wandered about being such a douche that nobody would deal with him, as a Dj I won't even play the stuff for self promotion because people immediately tend to roll their eyes at the mention of the thing all based on his attitude.

I reiterate: It would be advisable to apologize, make it sound sincere even if it isn't and try a more constructive approach, temper it with patience and understanding and you will go a lot further. People can be quite forgiving if you give them the opportunity, you would be surprised.


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i'm not a douche all the time. i got lots of projects running well. its just that fla project here where nothing moves foward.

problem about your recommendation is: its not like i've been harassing stefan for the last 6 years. years ago i heard from him that he wasnt interested in my work, so i didnt bother him any further.

this time around it started by sending one small clip to him that he did watch, and his INITIAL reply was 'thats better than the old stuff indeed'.

but i havent called him for the last 4 months and asked him every day if he still hasnt watched the full mera show. it was after 3 months that i got pissed about things, 3 months of unharassing behaviour and private mails, after doing it exactly the way you want me to do it.

been there, done that, the reason why i'm douching here and now is because doing what you told me was done and didnt lead anywhere. sending more polite mails wouldnt have lead anywhere, THAT is why i chose to discuss this here in public.


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LOL.

One can only shoot himself in the foot so many times.

We have a winner here, Guinness book of records would be an appropriate place to submit this to..

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When does the DVD come out?

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